About us
"Wisdom and Woe" is a philosophy and literature discussion group dedicated to exploring the world, work, life, and times of Herman Melville and the 19th century Romantic movement. We will read and discuss topics related to:
- Works of Herman Melville: Moby-Dick, Clarel, Bartleby the Scrivener, Billy Budd, The Confidence-Man, Mardi, reviews, correspondence, etc.
- Themes and affinities: whales, cannibals, shipwrecks, theodicy, narcissism, exile, freedom, slavery, redemption, democracy, law, orientalism, Zoroastrianism, Gnosticism, psychology, mythology, etc.
- Influences and sources: the Bible, Shakespeare, Hawthorne, Milton, Cervantes, Dante, Emerson, Kant, Plato, Romanticism, Stoicism, etc.
- Legacy and impact: adaptations, derivations, artworks, analysis, criticism, etc.
- And more
The group is free and open to anybody with an interest in learning and growing by "diving deeper" (as Hawthorne once said of his conversations with Melville) into "time and eternity, things of this world and of the next, and books, and publishers, and all possible and impossible matters."
Regarding the name of the group:
"There is a wisdom that is woe; but there is a woe that is madness. And there is a Catskill eagle in some souls that can alike dive down into the blackest gorges, and soar out of them again and become invisible in the sunny spaces."
(Moby-Dick, 96)
"Though wisdom be wedded to woe, though the way thereto is by tears, yet all ends in a shout." (Mardi, 2.79)
"The intensest light of reason and revelation combined, can not shed such blazonings upon the deeper truths in man, as will sometimes proceed from his own profoundest gloom. Utter darkness is then his light.... Wherefore is it, that not to know Gloom and Grief is not to know aught that an heroic man should learn?" (The Ambiguities, 9.3)
"The heart of the wise is in the house of mourning; but the heart of fools is in the house of mirth." (Ecclesiastes 7:4)
Upcoming events
5

The Dark Night - St. John of the Cross
·OnlineOnlineSt. John of the Cross (1542-1591) was a 16th-century Spanish mystic and poet, ranked among such great intellectual and philosophical theologians such as St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas. After 1567, when he joined with Teresa of Ávila to institute reforms in the Carmelite order, opponents of the reform had him arrested, imprisoned, and subjected to public floggings. His ordeal lasted for nine months, but it provided the foundational experience for much of his subsequent poetry and spiritual writings.
"The Dark Night" ("Noche Oscura," c. 1577) is his poem and commentary of the same name, a masterpiece of mystical Christian literature. He coined the term "the dark night" to describe a painful series of purifications on the spiritual journey towards union with God. In the first phase (the night of sense), the soul begins to practice self-denial and detachment from worldly desires. In the second phase (the night of spirit), the divine light reveals the soul's own imperfections and sins. During this process, the soul suffers great anguish, feeling abandoned and forsaken, but perseverance promises an ultimate revelation of peace, love, and knowledge of God.
The writings of St. John have influenced centuries of theologians, philosophers, artists, poets, and psychologists. The concept of "the dark night" has been adopted to mean an intense period of personal crisis, emotional hardship, and/or deep introspection. Joseph Campbell states "The dark night of the soul comes just before revelation. When everything is lost, and all seems darkness, then comes the new life and all that is needed." Night-evoking places--e.g., the abyss, a cave, prison, or belly of the whale--are regarded as both tomb and womb, death and renewal, on the way through Campbell's hero's journey.
Dark Night of the Soul:
- Google books
- Librivox 5:01 hrs
Supplemental:
- Understanding the Dark Night of St. John of the Cross, pt. 1 - lecture by Fr. Timothy Gallagher
- Understanding the Dark Night of St. John of the Cross, pt. 2 - lecture by Fr. Timothy Gallagher
- The Great Books podcast episode #368
- The Dark Night of the Soul song by Loreena McKennitt
Extracts:
- "Eloi lama sabachthani!" (Clarel, 3.7)
- "...jetting came a wail / In litany from Kedron’s jail / Profound, and belly of the whale: / “Lord, have mercy. / Christ, have mercy. / Intercede for me, / Angel of the Agony. / Spare me, spare me! Merciful be— / Lord, spare me— / Spare and deliver me!”" (Clarel, 3.14)
- "to the purely spiritual, the intellectual but stand in a sort of corporeal relation." (Moby-Dick, 46)
This meetup is part of the series In the Belly of the Whale.
29 attendees
A Narrative of Captivity - Ethan Allen
·OnlineOnlineEthan Allen (1738-1789) was a farmer, businessman, philosopher, writer, lay theologian, politician, and American Revolutionary War hero. After he and his "Green Mountain Boys" made their celebrated capture of Fort Ticonderoga from the British, Allen led an attack on Montreal. But at the Battle of Longue-Pointe, his forces were scattered and he and thirty of his men were captured. He spent nearly three years languishing in British prison ships, under execrable conditions, before he was released in May of 1778.
Allen's Narrative of Captivity (1807) recounts these events, providing both a personal testament to the power of endurance and a crucial primary source on the realities of the early war. What particularly distinguished his account from earlier "captivity narratives" (such as that of Mary Rowlandson) was its focus on politics and patriotism, rather than on religious faith and perseverance. It became a bestseller, helping to galvanize the American spirit against British cruelty, and promoting the cause of his fellow Revolutionaries.
A Narrative of Colonel Ethan Allen's Captivity:
- Google books
- Gutenberg
- Librivox ~3h5m
Extracts:
- "Among the episodes of the Revolutionary War, none is stranger than that of Ethan Allen in England; the event and the man being equally uncommon." (Israel Potter, 22)
- "Aye, stare, stare! Though but last night dragged out of a ship's hold, like a smutty tierce; and this morning out of your littered barracks here, like a murderer; for all that, you may well stare at Ethan Ticonderoga Allen, the unconquered soldier - (Ha! three-times-three for glorious old Vermont, and my Green-Mountain boys! Hurrah! Hurrah! Hurrah!) I am he, I say..." (Israel Potter, 21)
- "You object to my way of taking things, do ye? I fear I shall never please ye. You objected to the way, too, in which I took Ticonderoga, and the way in which I meant to take Montreal. Selah!" (Israel Potter, 21)
- "... it is he—Ethan Allen, the soldier; now, since ladies' eyes visit him, made trebly a captive." (Israel Potter, 21)
- "Brave soldier and stout thinker both; / In this regard, and in degree, / An Ethan Allen, by my troth, / Or Herbert lord of Cherbury, / Dusked over. 'Tis an iron glove, / An armed man in a Druid grove." (Clarel, 4.18)
This meetup is part of the series In the Belly of the Whale.
16 attendees
The Age of Reason - Thomas Paine (week 1)
·OnlineOnlineIn The Age of Reason (1794-1807), Thomas Paine portrays the Bible as a human construct full of historical inaccuracies, moral contradictions, and "fabulous" myths. He critiques supernatural revelation and institutionalized religion as tools of manipulation, instead advocating a theology based on reason and observation of the natural world, where "man's mind is his own church."
He wrote the first part of the book while imprisoned during the Reign of Terror, hoping to provide a rational alternative to the total atheism then prevalent in revolutionary France. Nevertheless, by presenting his views in a popular and irreverent style, using lucid and often humorous prose, Paine earned a reputation as an agitator and blasphemer. His commentary on the Book of Jonah is representative: "The story of the whale swallowing Jonah... borders greatly on the marvelous; but it would have approached nearer to the idea of a miracle, if Jonah had swallowed the whale."
Paine narrowly escaped execution in Jacobin France, where his views were perceived as not radical enough. But the British government, fearing that his influence was too radical, prosecuted printers and publishers of his book. Meanwhile, in the United States The Age of Reason became a best-seller, spurring a brief revival of Deism, but damaging his legacy over the long term.
Schedule:
- Week 1 (March 29): Part 1
- Week 2: Part 2
The Age of Reason:
- Standard Ebooks
- Gutenberg
- Google books
- Librivox (version 1) 8h11m
- Librivox (version 2) 11h37m
- Librivox (version 3) 8h11m
Extracts:
- "A book all but forsaken now / For more advanced ones not so frank, / Nor less in vogue and taking rank; / And yet it never shall outgrow / That infamy it first incurred, / Though—viewed in light which moderns know— / Capricious infamy absurd. / The blunt straightforward Saxon tone, / Work-a-day language, even his own, / The sturdy thought, not deep but clear, / The hearty unbelief sincere" (Clarel, 1.17)
- "So far back his Greek Church did plant, / Rome’s Pope he deemed but Protestant— / A Rationalist, a bigger Paine— / Heretic, worse than Arian" (Clarel, 3.23)
- "Now some Nantucketers rather distrust this historical story of Jonah and the whale." (Moby-Dick, 83)
- "I lost all respect for whales; and began to be a little dubious about the story of Jonah; for how could Jonah reside in such an insignificant tenement; how could he have had elbow-room there? But perhaps, thought I, the whale which according to Rabbinical traditions was a female one, might have expanded to receive him like an anaconda, when it swallows an elk and leaves the antlers sticking out of its mouth.... And, doubtless, Jonah himself must have been disappointed when he looked up to the domed midriff surmounting the whale’s belly, and surveyed the ribbed pillars around him. A pretty large belly, to be sure, thought he, but not so big as it might have been." (Redburn, 20)
- "Though [regarding Jonah and the whale], some sailors are slow believers, or at best hold themselves in a state of philosophical suspense. Say they—“That catastrophe took place in the Mediterranean; and the only whales frequenting the Mediterranean, are of a sort having not a swallow large enough to pass a man entire; for those Mediterranean whales feed upon small things, as horses upon oats.”" (Mardi, 1.95)
This meetup is part of the series In the Belly of the Whale.
17 attendees
The Age of Reason - Thomas Paine (week 2)
·OnlineOnlineIn The Age of Reason (1794-1807), Thomas Paine portrays the Bible as a human construct full of historical inaccuracies, moral contradictions, and "fabulous" myths. He critiques supernatural revelation and institutionalized religion as tools of manipulation, instead advocating a theology based on reason and observation of the natural world, where "man's mind is his own church."
He wrote the first part of the book while imprisoned during the Reign of Terror, hoping to provide a rational alternative to the total atheism then prevalent in revolutionary France. Nevertheless, by presenting his views in a popular and irreverent style, using lucid and often humorous prose, Paine earned a reputation as an agitator and blasphemer. His commentary on the Book of Jonah is representative: "The story of the whale swallowing Jonah... borders greatly on the marvelous; but it would have approached nearer to the idea of a miracle, if Jonah had swallowed the whale."
Paine narrowly escaped execution in Jacobin France, where his views were perceived as not radical enough. But the British government, fearing that his influence was too radical, prosecuted printers and publishers of his book. Meanwhile, in the United States The Age of Reason became a best-seller, spurring a brief revival of Deism, but damaging his legacy over the long term.
Schedule:
- Week 1: Part 1
- Week 2 (April 5): Part 2
The Age of Reason:
- Standard Ebooks
- Gutenberg
- Google books
- Librivox (version 1) 8h11m
- Librivox (version 2) 11h37m
- Librivox (version 3) 8h11m
Extracts:
- "A book all but forsaken now / For more advanced ones not so frank, / Nor less in vogue and taking rank; / And yet it never shall outgrow / That infamy it first incurred, / Though—viewed in light which moderns know— / Capricious infamy absurd. / The blunt straightforward Saxon tone, / Work-a-day language, even his own, / The sturdy thought, not deep but clear, / The hearty unbelief sincere" (Clarel, 1.17)
- "So far back his Greek Church did plant, / Rome’s Pope he deemed but Protestant— / A Rationalist, a bigger Paine— / Heretic, worse than Arian" (Clarel, 3.23)
- "Now some Nantucketers rather distrust this historical story of Jonah and the whale." (Moby-Dick, 83)
- "I lost all respect for whales; and began to be a little dubious about the story of Jonah; for how could Jonah reside in such an insignificant tenement; how could he have had elbow-room there? But perhaps, thought I, the whale which according to Rabbinical traditions was a female one, might have expanded to receive him like an anaconda, when it swallows an elk and leaves the antlers sticking out of its mouth.... And, doubtless, Jonah himself must have been disappointed when he looked up to the domed midriff surmounting the whale’s belly, and surveyed the ribbed pillars around him. A pretty large belly, to be sure, thought he, but not so big as it might have been." (Redburn, 20)
- "Though [regarding Jonah and the whale], some sailors are slow believers, or at best hold themselves in a state of philosophical suspense. Say they—“That catastrophe took place in the Mediterranean; and the only whales frequenting the Mediterranean, are of a sort having not a swallow large enough to pass a man entire; for those Mediterranean whales feed upon small things, as horses upon oats.”" (Mardi, 1.95)
This meetup is part of the series In the Belly of the Whale.
11 attendees
Past events
382


